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hello, everyone! dr. eric zielinski here. this is my wife sabrina, aka mama z. thank you so much for just your outpouringof love and support on our facebook pages. we really, really appreciate all y’all. really, i can’t even begin to tell you. we get emails pouring in, just gratitude,love, support, testimonials. our inspirational images are just going viral. hundreds, thousands of people are sharingjust god’s love, wisdom of the abundant

life, biblical health. and my wife and i, we’re just absolutelycommitted to helping people just live healthy, strong lives. so if you haven’t met my wife, this is mamaz. sabrina: hi! thank you guys so much for your support andall of your questions and comments. we so appreciate you guys. dr. zielinski: so we’re taking advantageof this facebook live thing. and i love it.

and for those of you who aren’t from atlanta,i want to give you a little taste, this is our favorite restaurant. hello, everyone! dr. eric zielinski here.this is my wife sabrina, aka mama z. we really, really appreciate all y’all.really, i can’t even begin to tell you. our inspirational images are just going viral.hundreds, thousands of people are sharing just god’s love, wisdom of the abundantlife, biblical health. and my wife and i, we’re just absolutely committed to helpingpeople just live healthy, strong lives. so if you haven’t met my wife, this is mamaz. sabrina: hi! thank you guys so much for yoursupport and all of your questions and comments.

we so appreciate you guys.dr. zielinski: so we’re taking advantage of this facebook live thing. and i love it.and for those of you who aren’t from atlanta, i want to give you a little taste, this isour favorite restaurant. this is true food cafeì. and this is like the premier vegetarianand healthy restaurant. but they do have beef, local grass-fed, awesome stuff.so we’re here at the restaurant hanging out. we told the waiter, “hey, we’re justgoing to be chilling.” and he’s like, “cool.” so we got in here. and we gota lot of questions. and so we got a lot of questions all over. thank you so much to theessential oils revolution facebook page, hosted by dr. josh axe. thank you so much for postingthis, because we saw some of your questions,

as well.so before we dive into the questions and the q&a, a couple of things. number one, there’sgoing to be a replay of this so those of you, if you got to jump off, because we’re goingto probably go for half an hour if not more. we’ve got a lot of questions and a lot ofinformation to share. don’t worry. you can come back. it’s going to be on facebook.and share it with some family, some loved ones because this is great information, especiallyfor you essential oil enthusiast out there, your neighbors, maybea distributor, whomever. so a couple of things before some housekeeping,a lot of this information is already on my essential oils database. you can go to drericz.com.and i share a weekly newsletter, my essential

oils database newsletter, where we just sharesome of the most up to date, practical, safe guidelines in how to use essential oils.so you could go to my website. sign up. and i have this really sweet giveaway offer, whereyou become an essential oil vip, where you get 10 interviews and transcripts from mylast summit, plus three of my favorite e-books. and then, while you’re there, hang out,check out sabrina’s recipes and diy. sabrina, anything you want to share, becauseyou have a newsletter every week. and we’re going to be really ramping up your recipesand diy, too. so what’s in the forefront? sabrina: well, of course, if you haven’thad the chance to get my pantry makeover yet, it’s a great way to start converting whatyou have in your pantry to something even

more healthy or allergy friendly. there arelots of good guides on that. but we’ll have a lot more recipes in every category, coveringeverything from breads to salads, and you name it. we’re going to have those on there.we’ll be releasing them as we go. but, of course, gardening tips. it is full-fledgedgardening season in almost every part of the country. so we were mentioning a little bitearlier on my page, we’re harvesting our lettuce. and peas are ready to be picked.so we’ll be sharing what’s going on in the garden, as well.dr. zielinski: very cool. well, folks, i’m also on facebook on my computer, so if youwant to...angelique, thank you so much for liking this post. i can see your comments.so leave a comment or two if you want to.

we can get that live, as well.so i just want to jump into the q&a. well, first of all, i want to have a little funhere because we have some best question winners. and you get the awesome prize of braggingrights, because you came up with some of the best questions.pam penny: pam, i absolutely love your question and we’re going to answer that in just asecond. what is sabrina’s most surprising use of an oil she ever experienced? i thoughtthat was one of the most unique questions that we got. we got tons of them. but that’sa fun story, so we’re going to talk a little bit about and that.and valerie sales and cathy welback – and i’m sorry if i’m butchering your lastname – but cathy and valerie asked pretty

much a similar question. valerie’s questionwas, “can i take clove oil for a prolonged period of time?” cathy’s way of sayingit was, “is it possible to build up a tolerance to the benefits of essential oils, like howyou can build up a tolerance to prescription medications? is there a point where afterprolonged use, the body just doesn’t respond to them anymore?”so i’m going to answer quickly those two questions from valerie and cathy and thengive it to sabrina, because sabrina’s going to tell her story, which is pretty profound,which is the reason why we’re in the situation, because of her really, just transformationwith essential oils. so valerie and cathy, i love that questionbecause it is somewhat of a...what’s the

best way of saying it? it’s more importantthan people recognize. it is very important because folks are really lathering on oilsor using oils. i think a lot of them are overdoing oils. and i never get this question. and thisis one of those safety questions that i think are most overlooked. so that’s why i putit as a best winner. so according to the national association forholistic aromatherapy and you could look up naha, n-a-h-a. i’m going to go quote thembecause robert tisserand, the premier essential oil safety expert. according to tisserandand balacs, the only likely risk would be fromprolonged exposure, perhaps, one hour or more to relatively high levels of essential vapor,which could lead to headaches, vertigo, nausea

and lethargy.okay, now, regarding to internal use, we have safety guidelines that are somewhat disputedin the aromatherapy world depending on what camp that you’re part of. yet the realityis...here’s my rule of thumb. you can overdo a good thing. you can overdo anything.and there’s a misnomer: “all things in moderation.” i don’t believe that. i reallydon’t. all good things in moderation, number one. i hear that a lot from, “oh, it’sjust a candy bar, once in a while.” no, no. sugar is poison. there’s abstinence.i’m a true believer of abstinence with poison. but when it some to essential oils, all thethings in moderation. and to me moderation would be like tisserand was sharing, it couldbe exposure to high amounts of essential oil

therapy in above an hour. and that’s a lot.and you’ve got to think, though, what does that look like? maybe that’s a vaporizer,where you have like you’re tenting it or you have a vicks vaporub kind of thing. iremember being a kid, you could use that eucalyptus or peppermint where you put some oils in bowlwith hot water. and then you just put your head above the bowl. and then you get a towelover that, like snuffing or steaming. like if you have that for more than hour,yeah, that to me is intense, but i don’t think what tisserand means is putting a diffuserin your house. because again, if you have a 500 square foot room and having a diffuser,that’s not high intense aromatherapy. and we’re basing that off of the animal studiesthat they did intense aromatherapy on animals

from upwards to two weeks. i saw some ratstudies. so to answer that question, i haven’t seenit in the literature. however, i do always recommend mixing it up a little bit. i don’tdo anything the same way every day. i do believe the body can develop some sort of resistance.and that could just be anything. just like how we don’t want to eat the same food everyday. and this is a problem we have in america— i’ve talked about this a lot in the summitsthat i’m on—is we’ve completely gotten out of god’s design of living in season.if god designed us to actually eat bananas every day, then bananas would be ripe andfruitful every day of the year. but they’re not indigenously. bananas have seasons.and so we live in this environment where we

could go to kroger, publix, whole foods orwherever you live. and you could just get food every day the same way. and i’m findingthat these are actually causing nutritional deficiencies. i know this isn’t a nutritionclass. but let’s take that concept to essentialoils. i do believe you need to mix it up a little bit. but have we seen it in the research?no, we haven’t proven anything like that. we haven’t proven resistance, so to speak.however, i would suggest, if we were to do a study we would find something, especiallylike antibiotic type of oils like oregano and thyme. you’re going to want to mix themup. so with that i wish i could share more. but my recommendation, my rule of thumb ismix it up.

so the next question, i’m going to handoff the mic to sabrina. sabrina, give us a little bit of your story because the mostsurprising use of oil probably was we discussed earlier on the way here at the restaurantis your story and why you started. so you want to hold that?sabrina: yes, back when i was in junior high, i was at my grandma’s house. and they hadwell water. and i had two over the counter facial products, cleansers. and it literallyate three layers plus off of my skin. and my face reacted. and it burned my skin. itburned the layers off of my skin. and my face was a complete scab.and i don’t know if you remember back to seventh to eighth grade but it was reallydifficult. it was so difficult that i had

to put makeup on just to protect my face duringthe day and come home and actually soak the makeup off with a snorkel in the sink. andmy mom, one of her best friends, mrs. b, who welovingly call her, she had studied ojibwa medicine. and they utilize a lot of essentialoils and other things. so with that, she gave me my first essential oil kit. and i utilizedfor my carrier oils, vitamin a and e, and used lavender. and the lavender really helpedto heal my face. and, of course, i prayed over my face every day. it was really difficult.and within six to 10 months, all the scarring was gone. and i had scars all over my faceon the side, on either side. and so that was my very first experience with essential oils.and i fell absolutely in love. i only had

three essential oils in my little kit. andi used them very faithfully. dr. zielinski: what were they?sabrina: eucalyptus, lavender, and peppermint. peppermint was the third. and so, you’llsee some of those come up in some of the other questions. i still use those very regularly.but god really healed my skin. and i really feel that god’s medicine using the essentialoils also helped to heal my skin, as well. dr. zielinski: awesome. so i categorized thesequestions because you could clump them a lot together because a lot of you are really lookinginto the same information. and this is one question i get daily, whether it’s on socialmedia or whether it’s on my website, is brand recommendation.and this is specifically to ray lamar, judy

connor, gail gowdy, elle sams, and suzy baco.suzan actually has some interesting questions because she lives in alberta, canada. andshe’s wondering how could she buy good essential oils. well, really it’s on the internetprimarily. you can get a lot online. and some of the major distributors will ship to canada,as well. so suzan, you could definitely get that.so here is an interesting thought for you all. there is such a thing as therapeuticgrape. and dr. robert pappas, i’ll give him a plug. if you haven’t, checked himout at essential oils university. he has like the largest essential oil chemistry educationfacebook group. it’s like a hundred thousand people.and the man is brilliant. i had him on the

essential oils revolution summit and we’regoing to look at getting him again for our august event. and so, when it come to dr.robert, he makes a good point [inaudible] therapeutic grade. it’s relative, though,because there is no standard, meaning there is no governing agency determining what’sreally safe and what’s not safe, what’s therapeutic.so therapeutic can be whatever you want it to be. i mean really, when it comes down toit. so when a company calls themselves therapeutic grade essential oils, yeah, it has a therapeuticeffect on the body but what does that really mean? how do you define it? and it’s relative.and so it’s not a bad thing. it really is a marketing ploy for some companies. othercompanies are really stringent about it. they

actually have a certification process. andthat’s what i really look forward to. i want to see what exactly you are doing.so my recommendation is, like us and sabrina, specifically, because sabrina has been usingoils now for 20 something years, 24 years. she’s used several different brands. andas a family, we use a few different brands, as well. we just don’t use just one, because– i’ll break it to you, there is just no one brand. please, please, don’t believeit. and i know there’s some – some of my best friends are great distributors fromgreat companies. there is no one mecca. and the reality is a lot of companies get theoil from the same suppliers, which is fine, that’s good. you want to get the best quality.so here’s what i recommend. i really do.

here’s what i recommend. i recommend vettingup the source. going to the company itself and asking, “where do you source it?”and this is one thing i really believe in. indigenous sourcing is key. and sabrina’sfather is an agri scientist. and he explained this very well when we’re talking. the chemicalcompounds in the plant are so much more inferior when they’re grown in non-native soil. youcan’t even compare. so if you want to get the best lavender, youreally want to get it in france. if you want to get the best bergamot, lemon, and peppermint,you want to get it in italy, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. soi would encourage, try to get a company that has indigenous sourcing. that is an unbelievablebenefit.

and you also want organic. you really do becauseeven though it is no guarantee, it will help you. we’re finding that a lot of these pesticides,even though the actual field – the lavender field or let’s say the frankincense treefarm – even though they’re not actually being sprayed, the neighboring farm or justthe chem trails or whatever else is happening, god forbid, is actually getting into the plant.because these oils—they’re fat—a lot of these chemicals are lipid soluble. theseplants, it’s fascinating. even organic essential oils...and this is something i’m writingan article on. hopefully, god willing, i’ll have it published. i’ve just been so busy.i’m working on it as we speak. i’m doing some really heavy research on it, becauseeven organic oils, are not guaranteed to be

pure. i’m telling you, there have been [inaudible]and aroma therapists in america are now really starting to herald this from the tree topsbecause there is no guarantee of purity at all.but organic in my opinion is best if you can. so organic, indigenous sourcing. i want tofind out what they do. how do they bottle it? how do they source it? you want to contactthe company. so in a nutshell, you just don’t want to believe whatever you read. you wantto go to the company. you want to find out, “okay, let me know what’s going on. howdo you source this stuff?” most good companies will have report that they can send you. it’slike a one-pager. it’s like a marketing thing.so it’s really important, folks. it’s

really important to vet it out and also trybecause i’ve founds that certain brands, i just don’t respond to as well as otherbrand. you know, we have biochemical individuality. you know i’m a white guy. my family is frompoland and italy. i have half and half, 50-50. i’m a split. but like i share a lot, anafrican-american woman in her 70’s, she might not respond to the same oils that irespond to just because we have a different genome. and that’s something to consider.so try. just try their sample kit.so if you vet a company, you like their sourcing, you feel their purity standards are good thenask them. say, “hey, what kind of chemicals do you find?” and just say, “let me seea report.” they have reports of the chemicals

and getting testing done. you want to lookat that and then try it out. try out a couple of oils.and lemon, lavender and peppermint are typically the trio that everyone tries. they’re relativelyinexpensive. and then you can get a good feel, for how they smell, how they taste if youuse them internally safely, how they apply in your skin. you want nice oil that isn’ttoo watery, that’s viscous, that penetrates your skin, that doesn’t leave your skinoily. and most importantly, you don’t want anything adulterated, which means, you don’twant to buy diluted oils. and that was a question from one lady. whoasked me about now? someone asked me about the now brand. and not to actually beat upthe now brand. but most the now stuff you’re

going to get at whole foods is diluted. andwhen you see their frankincense that they’re selling for 10 bucks, it’s because there’sa couple of drop of frankincense and a ton of drops of whatever carrier oil that they’reputting in. that’s something to consider, too. i wouldactually only recommend straight oils to dilute yourself, because you’re basically payingthem for carrier oil. you’re wasting your money. now, don’t get me wrong, i know someof the big companies are coming out with their roller bottles. that’s cool if you’vegot the money. and if you want to have the convenience of already pre-diluted oils, fine.but for me, i’d rather get the concentrated stuff.the last point is price. and this is important.

and like dr. pappas shared in my oil summitlast year, price matters. we can really predict the price of gasoline in america next monthbecause we know what the drum value of oil as of today. same thing with oils. there’sno way in the world that you’re going to get organic and indigenously sourced, frankincenseand myrrh for 10 bucks. no way. it’s just too expensive.no way. you want to get frankincense that cost a couple of bucks, like $50, $60, $70for a 15 ml bottle because you really going to get what you pay for.same thing with rose, if you’re going to find rose for 20 or 30 bucks, you know it’sfake. and it’s adulterated. either it’s flat out fake or it’s heavily diluted. sorose, you can get rose for like $250. that’s

expensive. but it’s reality. that what ittakes because it takes like a million rose petals to get a bottle. so think of it thatway. same thing with helichrysum, blue tansy, chamomile,melissa, which is in rare form right now. so think about that, okay? price does matter.so diy. that’s brands. i hope i answered that question. i get that question all thetime. i actually answer them in my sleep. it’s a good question though, i know, because...seriously,i’ll end. we’re a family. you can’t see, but sabrina’s pregnant. we have fourkids, soon to be. we get this. we completely understand being out of budget. and we justwant to no waste our money and only get what’s good.we’re going to transition to diy, because

this is really important. a lot of folks useessential oils as their replacement for a lot of the chemicals in the lotions and potionsand products that are really causing havoc to our nervous system. and mickey’s question,let’s go into mickey. and i’ll hand over the diy questions to sabrina because thisis her niche. mickey miller asked, “what is the shelflife for the shampoo recipe that we include on my website, which includes one can of coconutmilk?” she made this. “i love the way my scalp feels,” but she’s concerned howlong it will last. so sabrina, how long will that recipe last?sabrina: well, it’s a cup and a half, which is the one can of coconut milk and a cup anda half of castile soap. usually that’s going

to make about 16 ounces. and it takes us abouta month to go through that because we’ve got like almost six people in our family.but definitely do the smell test on that, for sure.and if you don’t have time to make your own shampoo or conditioners, a couple of littletips on this is you can always use the dr. bronner’s baby mildor the desert essence organics unscented. and then you can always add essential oilsto those, as well. dr. zielinski: awesome. next question frompam penny. pam asked, what our favorite oil for the face? favorite oil for the washerand dryer? sabrina: of course, if you haven’t heardmy story earlier, my favorite oil for the

face is lavender. but my second favorite forthe face is cypress. cypress is excellent for those big puffy mama eyes that have tostay up all night with babies. i just add a couple drops to my moisturizer. and it reallyhelps. [audio cuts out] oh, we’re back. we’re back.dr. zielinski: hey, folks, i just want to apologize. evidently, the wi-fi we’re gettingisn’t good. hopefully you’re seeing the audio. the connection is weak right now. soi apologize. but once we replay this, you should be able to see the video. but hopefullyyou can hear us. sabrina: yes. so in the washer, i love touse both lavender and orange together, and, as well, on the dryer balls. you can get feltedwool or other animals. and we use the dryer

balls. and you just need a couple of dropson your dryer balls. and that’s it. it really does make the clothes really fresh. all right,next question. dr. zielinski: we have a few good questionsabout how to really overall use oils. terry sinclair asked, “i've read and heard aboutthe benefits of essential oils. and i have a diffuser at my desk and beside. my questionis does breathing the diffused oils work for prevention the same as ingesting them?”great, great question terry, in my opinion, aromatherapy is more effective. meaning, thediffuse – the aromatic use of essential oils, because you have no guarantee that theoils are actually going to be metabolized once you ingest them. and you don’t evenknow really where they’re going to be transported.

just think of it, when you put a drop – let’ssay, just put a drop of lemon in your water. you drink it. and it’s goingto get absorbed in the esophagus. you’re going to get a little bit in your stomach.and then the hydrochloric acid is just going to eat away. it’s not even going to getto your intestines. and will it even get into your bloodstream? probably not.so if you really want essential oils to affect you, especially the mind-body connection,it has to be aromatherapy. and that’s the nice thing about aromatherapy as whole. whetheryou apply it over your skin or whether you diffuse it, you’re getting it.so here’s the bottom line with smell and just to explain it, all around us all thetime, there are billions and billions of little

particles. they’re call volatile organiccompounds. if you smell something, that means that particle exists. they are so small youcan’t see it. same thing with essential oils, if you smellthe lavender once you open up the bottle, you’re actually getting those chemicals,touching, literally touching, the nerve cells in your nose. and then it goes right to yourlimbic system in your brain because that’s where nerve cells are connected from the noseto the brain. and that is your mood, your instinctual centers of your life.so if you want to affect serotonin, you want to help balance mood disorders, anything.that is why aromatherapy through aromatic purposes is primary the best. and not onlythat, but you’re also getting the oils into

the bloodstream much better, in my opinion,from that. well, you do also have topical. and that’ssomething to consider too. if you’re going to isolate it, topical is also a good use.so if i had to rank them, number one is aromatic. number two is topical with dilution, of course.and number three is ingestion. and now, when you ingest, you could do thingslike peppermint and enteric coated capsule for ibs, irritable bowel syndrome. and thatis a capsule that won’t digest [inaudible]. and they’renot very expensive. you can get them online. the only thing is you have to buy them inbulk, like you literally got to buy 10,000 of these little capsules worth like 100 bucks.so it’s crazy. just get a co-op. get your

essential oil friends together. buy like 10,000capsules for 100 bucks. and you’ll have them. and you’ll use one-tenth of them andsell them on ebay. so, you know, just be real. so the other thing is for topical use, alwaysdilute. that’s so important because if you don’t, you’re really wasting oil. quitefrankly, because these oils are so volatile. they’re so light and airy. and just so youknow, these oils, there’s no nutrition in it. there are no vitamins or minerals. it’sesters and ketones and alcohols and terpenes and things that we only learn in biochemistryclass. and so they evaporate. if you smell it, thatmeans it already evaporated from your skin and the chemicals are already reaching yournose. you wait a few seconds, they’re all

over the room. and so when you dilute it,you’re actually stopping that. you’re helping stop that. you’re helping stop that.you’re helping slow down that evaporation process. you’ll actually also open up thepores so the body can absorb it to help it get it in your blood stream.and according to jane goldberg, who’s a phd for the huffington post, when you do essentialoil therapy correctly topically, those oils will penetrate to your blood system and getsystemic within 20 minutes. that’s really quick. if you want far reaching on oils, especiallyif you have systemic chronic issues, like chronic inflammation, if you have systemiccancer concerns, or whatever that might be, that’s a fantastic way of getting it inyour body.

so long answer to a quick question, but i’mtrying to hit five birds with one stone because pat asked, “is it safe to ingest oils?”yeah, if you’re using it for therapeutic purposes because you do it for a couple of reasons. again, when you ingest oils, you want to put it in a capsule primarily fortherapeutic purposes because it bypasses the esophagus. that way [inaudible].but most importantly at least it can get into the stomach, where hopefully the stomach liningwill actually absorb some of it to get into the body. really, it’s a tough call whenyou ingest oils. but a drop like pat says, a drop of lime in water, that’s what wedo all the time. we love it, we really do. it is a good flavoring for us.and i know some folk disagree with that but

it works for us and we know our limit. onedrop in our pierre sparkling water with a couple drops of stevia. that’s our lemonade,what is it 7up? i haven’t had that for 12 years. seriously, it’s our 7up. it’s oursprite. we don’t drink soda. so that is our soda.ginelle. ginelle, we love you. just so you know, ginelle, we just love and appreciateyou. she is my virtual assistant. she is the one who helps me with social media. and shejust loves us. she loves jesus. and she has a great question. “dr. z and mama z, whatare your top five favorite essential oils? why are they your favorite? and what are yourfavorite ways to use them?” i’ll hand this off to mama z.sabrina: when he was talking about the oils

and dilution, most of the time, one drop ofoil is a serving. so you are going to save a lot more money when do use one or one totwo drops, when you’re using the oils even diluted. so that’s really important.one of the things that we love, when i was thinking about my top five, i came out withmy top six. and then i came up with my top seven. so lemon, lavender and peppermint,i love those for allergies. the lavender calms everything down. the peppermint opens everythingup. and the lemon cleanses everything through. we use those for a lot of things. i reallygo through multiple bottles of lemon for a month because i use it for cleaning and shiningup every piece of stainless steel you possibly can in your house. and it takes stickers offof

everything. and if you have kids like mine,they use stickers a lot. one of the other ones is rosemary. and i userosemary and peppermint on my scalp. the carrier i use is a magnesium gel. but i have verysensitive skin. and i love that on my scalp. and then you feel like that rejuvenation fromthe peppermint and the rosemary. also frankincense, that’s a go-to for alot of different things. and you’ve probably seen recipes on our page and we use frankincensea lot. but frankincense is a go to for a lot of different purposes.one of the other ones that i love – well it’s the last two – are orange and vanilla.and those are very, very happy scents. when i did the research before i was pregnant withmy first baby, my mom has had postpartum depression.

and it got consecutively worse. so i did researchon what kinds of oils would be very good, not only topical for the baby, but also aromaticallyfor me to help combat postpartum depression, which i haven’t had with any of the babies.and we use that in our body products that we make every day for the kids.so believe it or not, that’s all seven. and i do use those in combination together.and i mentioned some of them with laundry and other things. but we use a lot of essentialoils. so i’m sorry. i had to take it to a top seven!dr. zielinski: i love it. melissa martinez asked, “i would like to know, as a beginner,what starter oils you would suggest?” you want to answer that one? i think you got agood one for this.

sabrina: yeah. definitely lemon, lavender,peppermint, frankincense, rosemary, fennel. any more that you think? those are reallymy top. also orange. orange is very good. dr. zielinski: i think a kind of clove.sabrina: yes. clove, lemongrass. dr. zielinski: clove is my favorite for somany reasons. the antioxidant property of clove is arguably some of the highest on theplanet of any substance on the earth according to various reports. it’s no joke. cloveis unbelievable. i love it for oral care. yeah, i love the citrus oils. you can’tgo wrong with any citrus. i mean, again, it all depends. i guess, my question is, “whatare you looking for?” if you’re looking just to get started, yeah, lemon, lavender,peppermint. that could help with a lot of

different conditions, a lot of health relatedthings. oh, yeah, thank you deb – tea tree, of course. these are good for cleaning, aswell. and there’s so many different things that you could do with just the basic oils.and then you can blend them, because that’s the other thing. think of them like primarycolors. if you’re a newbie, you want to choose oils that you could blend with otheroils well. and that includes eucalyptus. there’s a great blend that various companies use.it could be a variety of things. an immunity type of blend that we like to do is cinnamon,rosemary, lemon, eucalyptus, clove. that’s just a great blend for immune boosting.sabrina: one of the other things that we’ve had a lot of questions about is first eczemaand then even deeper skin cancer, sunspots,

pre-cancerous. and definitely what i liketo do for eczema...and of course, if you’re talking about babies or infants, you wantto double dilute everything and do a test spot on them, as well.but for your adults and older children, eczema spots, i really like to use bragg apple cidervinegar on a cotton circle. and what that does it helps to neutralize the ph of theskin and also gently exfoliate the dead skin cells that are on top. then i use equal partsof the 99% or 100% aloe. i like the lily of the desert. and that’s the aloe vera jelly,not the gel or the liquid. i do a 50-50 split with that and raw organic coconut oil.and once i put that in a glass container and whip it up, meaning just shaking it up. itturns into like a white paste. and for every

one ounce of that mixture, i use eight dropsof essential oils. so for eczema, i use eight drops of lavender. if it’s very severe eczema,then i go to four drops of lavender, two drops of frankincense, and two drops of melaleuca.and one of the things to think about, as well, is my father, he’s had lots of sun spots.and he’s had a lot of things burn off. and i read that the ointment bottle that he hadbrought. and he had been doing it for six months. and it was horrible. it was all overhis hands and his arms. and i read the ointment. and it said that it caused cancer and that’swhy he got those spots burnt off. and i asked him if he wanted to be healed.and he said, “yes, of course.” so i did start it with the brag apple cider vinegarand of course he said he didn’t want to

smell like a salad. but i said, “just letme finish the treatment, okay?” so then i applied it. and within two days, all theminor spots were actually gone. and that was doing it three times a day. and then we wentdown to two times a day. and within two weeks, all of those spots were gone.so everybody’s skin is different. but i’ve seen just multiple, multiple spots and i’veseen him be able to this mixture. and that’s really what i do recommend for a lot of people.and of course, we want to get a good amount of vitamin d, but we also want to be careful,too, if we have predisposition to those kinds of things, as well.we had a good question on what essential oils—who asked this one?— karen werner, “what arethe best oils for healing leaky gut?” what

a hot topic right now with leaky gut, intestinalpermeability. it's such a problem right now especially for people that are dealing withchronic inflammation. so really anything in the body that could help with lowering inflammation.a good strategy is diluted oils over the abdomen. that’s a fantastic strategy to use for this.and again, if you're going to use internal use, it's tough because you're going to havea use a capsule or even if you can't get an enteric-coated capsule, a good solid gel capbecause if you put oils and water or just a drop in your tongue, be careful, a, youdon’t want to burn yourself and, b, the likelihood of it actually getting to yourgut is impossible. it’s just not going to happen.so if you really want to, peppermint is just

fantastic. it's just the healing agent inthe stomach. also, thyme. i can't begin to tell you, thyme is probably my favorite all-aroundoil. and thyme and lemongrass, they're so cost effective. and they do virtually everything.and you know, folks, i forgot to mentioned this before. i try to talk about this a lotin my summits and documentaries that i’m in, here's the thing. there is no oil forthat. and i know this is hard because we've beenso built-up in america. you go to the doctor because you have an ear infection, and theygive you an antibiotic. or you go because you have a sore throat, they give you an antibiotic.or we have so many health conditions and they have this standard process.this is the problem with diagnosis. you put

someone in a box, and then you get them intoa box of treatment. it doesn’t work like that with natural therapies. a, it doesn’twork like that with medical therapies or else no one would be sick. the whole concept isfalse. and so, when you think of it, indigenous culturesare using essential oils for virtually everything. and meaning this, go back a thousand yearsbefore – 2,000 or 3,000, before we had transportation around the globe, right? before boats couldtransfer you to one country or continent to another. we have records that people would,say, the aboriginals in australia, they used tea tree and eucalyptus for virtually everything.we have records of the american-indians in the pacific northwest, like now in the current-dayoregon and washington using peppermint for

virtually everything. we have folks in indiausing lemon for virtually everything. and that’s just what it is. it's that you usewhat you have available to you. and so my suggestion is this: just recognizethere are a very few contradictions, meaning this, if you want to energize yourself, stayaway from lavender. if you really want to calm yourself, yeah, you probably might wantto stay away from some of the citrus or peppermint because those are going to jazz you up a littlebit. other than that, all of the oils, a lot of them do the same thing like, really.when it comes to cancer, leaky gut, when it comes to diabetes, a lot of these oils aredoing the same thing. and the problem in research and as a public health researcher, i bemoanthe fact that we haven’t done exhaustive

studies about everything. but we also don’thave the funding. and that’s really a problem. and that’s a problem that we deal with inthe chiropractic profession and other naturopathic professions is that we just don’t have themoney. so with that, we'll give you our experience.yet just remember, at the end of the day if we give you three, four, or five oils – ifyou go to draxe.com, if you go to drericz.com, if you go to other websites – and you findout, okay, this oil is good for this and if it doesn’t work for you, it doesn’t meanit's not good. maybe it doesn’t work with your biochemistry, find another one, really.and i love the fact that we can empower one another. we want to help you. we want to helpyou become a trained healthcare, “i can

take care of myself” kind of person, a trainedhealthcare professional. you don’t need to go to school to be a trained healthcareprofessional. grandmas used to pass on the knowledge todaughters, who passed on to their daughters, who passed on to their daughters. we missthat. so, these were the healthcare professionals of our planet up until recently. so with that,it's a whole another topic. candice, candice harris, good question. weget this a lot, too. i'm having an article about this soon. and scott johnson, dr. johnsonis going to be talking about this in my upcoming summit. "what essential oil would you recommendfor adhd? my son is on ritalin. and i'm desperate to get him off of it. he's 17. and i fearfor the long-term effects. i want to start

trying eos, but we don’t know where to start."sabrina, this is something you battled with, can you talk about this a little bit?sabrina: yeah, absolutely. and, of course, we do want to start there with diet. and someof the things that for me, i had to cut out gluten and sugar and wheat and preservatives,dairy. and that’s a great place to start because you want to see what things are inflammation-basedand what things are truly adhd. and you want to address the issue directly.some of the great oils for adhd are vetiver and chamomile, lavender, and cedarwood. thoseare amazing. and again, you want to mix it up. and if you do want to use them, i recommendon the bottom of the feet, on the spine, back of the neck. we do different protocols evenwith our kids in the morning versus at night.

and that’s really important, too, becauseespecially if they are adhd or add, they really need to be able to have good quality sleepat night, as well. so, utilizing lavender, or lavender and chamomile,or eucalyptus, peppermint, lavender, and chamomile together because when they go to sleep, sometimes,it takes a little bit of energy with an adhd person to then calm them down, if that makesany sense. that’s why they would use something like ritalin or other medicines like that.so you have to experiment with it, but that’s a place to start.one other thing i wanted to mention, too, is we do get a lot of questions about kidswith fevers and whatnot, and what you do with that. now, our good friend dr. david jockers,he wrote an article a number of years ago

about rejoice when your child has a feverbecause it could be bacterial or it could be viral. but that means the body is fightingit off. so one of the things that we utilize is acarrier oil with peppermint when our kids get a fever. and one time, eric came homeand my daughter had had a 104 fever. and within 15 minutes...i had put it on her spine andthe bottom of the feet and the back of the neck, and it had gone down almost all theway down to 98.6. dr. zielinski: and orange. sabrina: and orange. dr. zielinski: yeah,peppermint and orange. sabrina: peppermint and orange together. andit was really funny because i was just going through the day. esther had a 104 temperateand isaiah did this. and he's like, "whoa,

wait a second, esther had a 104 in temperature?"and literally, within 15 minutes it calmed all the way down.it really allows her body to fight off whatever it needed to. but at the same time, it broughther internal temperature back down. and then i had to apply it one more time. and her temperaturewas completely gone. so definitely utilize these things for your over-the-counter needs.i'm not saying you don’t have to go right to your doctor, but it's good to try someof these things at home before making that rush into the er.dr. zielinski: awesome, good questions. this is a good one. i'm going to get a little scientificfor you all because i think it's important to understand the significance of essentialoil therapy to replace medical intervention

overdosing really. a lot of us are just chronicallyusing over the counters where we shouldn’t. it's causing liver damage, kidney damage,chronic inflammation which is leading to heart attacks.so judy a connor, great question. same thing, beth waters it's similar, beth is asking specificallyto reduce inflammation. judy is asking what good oil to use for muscular pain like backpain is the best topically and internally. with a note, there is something called themorphine bomb. if you see it, it's what marjoram, lemongrass, and frankincense. is that themorphine bomb? i think there's a more – marjoram, lemongrass, and i believe it’s frankincense.again, it's just morphine bomb. you can see it on pinterest. some recommend like 20 dropsof an oil and a capsule. please be careful.

don’t do anything like that.sabrina: you could do it just as effectively in a roll-on bottle diluted.dr. zielinski: if you do anything internal, again, i would limit your capsules to maybetwo to three drops of any oil in a capsule. that’s good enough in a capsule. but toanswer your question, this is such a good question because this is the quintessential,quintessential example of why essential oils really are god's medicine.so, there's a chemical called methyl salicylate. it's an organic ester. and it's naturallyproduced in a lot of species of plants, particularly wintergreen. and some wintergreen speciesliterally have 80% to 90% methyl salicylate. it's used in bengay, listerine. and it's ananalgesic.

and so, wintergreen, in my opinion, is likeliquid aspirin, it's fantastic. don’t ever apply it topically unless it's diluted. itwill burn you and be very, very careful. but dilute it. and you can dilute two, three,drops of carrier oil per one drop of wintergreen. that’s a good start, maybe four or maybefive drops. if you're using it with children, be very careful and make that 10x. heavilydilute it with children. it's similar to oral aspirin. aspirin actuallyis a acetylsalicylic acid. that’s very similar to the chemical compound of methyl salicylate.so that’s why we like to call it liquid aspirin. also you could also use frankincense,cypress, lemongrass is a good [inaudible] and virtually any needle oil like bur, whitefir, birchwood, fir, and others. those are

great for inflammation,and you're going to apply them topically over you joints. and i get just the best resultsfrom that with the folks that we work with, and have worked with, and ourselves.here's a good question from marita jorgensen. "i would like to know what, if any essentialoil helps with water retention, especially my ankles. i have hypothyroidism so that couldbe a problem." so let me hand this over to sabrina because, especially being pregnant,she's dealing with cankles. and so what are you doing?sabrina: well, i really do recommend besides essential oils, i use coconut water and magnesium.i actually like the powdered calm magnesium. that helps to flush the extra lactic acidout of your joints. but as far as essential

oils, i love cypress and helichrysum. butsome of the other ones that really helped to aid are grapefruit and lemongrass.now, with people that have thyroid issues, a couple essential oils that are really keyto remember are lemongrass, really helps balance the thyroid. and clove really helps to supportthe thyroid. now, if you are hypothyroid, peppermint can help, as well. and then ofcourse, if you are hyperthyroid, then myrrh helps a lot.i had a molar pregnancy with my last pregnancy. and that temporarily throws you into hyperthyroidism.where you're losing your hair. and you're just taking a massive caloric intake and you'restill very, very – you can't even get enough food. so, those things really do help. itreally helped balance my thyroid so much faster.

so i recommend that for sure.dr. zielinski: you want to read the next one? sabrina: yes.dr. zielinski: because you really got that one. we have a couple of questions about skincondition. sabrina: yes. it says, "i have a few smallrough patches on my face that my doctor tells me are caused by overexposure to the sun.is there an oil or combination that helps to heal them? they recommended the chemo cream."and remember, i have talked about that earlier. and if you look at those creams, it actuallysays that it causes cancer. so now, i use that same blend that i mentionedearlier even when i've had really bad sunburns with the bragg apple cider vinegar. and somemay say, "oh, that hurts. does that hurt?"

it actually feels cooling and it feels wonderfulon the skin. and then utilizing the coconut oil, the raw organic coconut oil with thealoe and the lavender. it really helps to calm everything down. andyou'll notice that with using the combination of both the bragg really to help neutralizethe ph of the skin and gently exfoliate those patches of skin, the dead skin cells on thesurface, that it will help quite a bit. some people also ask, “well, what wouldyou then wash your face with?” and remember, coconut oil itself is a surfactant. it cancreate bubbles and you can wash your face with coconut oil. and you can moisturize withcoconut oil. so when you think of it like that, you could do just that, washing withcoconut oil and utilizing the bragg apple

cider vinegar, almost like a toner and thenfollowing up with your moisturizer of aloe and raw organic coconut oil with essentialoils used within that. dr. zielinski: so gail goudy asked, "can anyof the essential oils help with eczema or idiopathic dermatitis?" i will tell you accordingto research, we have found that tea tree, lavender, and interestingly evening primroseand borage. borage oil can actually help and very effective. so you want to use a nicecarrier oil. what recipe would you recommend for that? because you have a good diy. becausewe help a lot of people with eczema. same thing, basically?sabrina: same thing except for – again, if it is more severe then instead of eightdrops of lavender for every one ounce of the

mixture that i recommended, i would do fourof lavender, two of melaleuca or the tea tree, and two of frankincense. and i know that roseoil is very expensive. but any time you are using rose oil, it is going to permeate thedermis much deeper. so that is going to get underneath those skincells to go even further and deeper into the skin.dr. zielinski: cool. we’ve got some live questions here. adriana sedano navarro asked,“what oil would you recommend for high blood pressure?” there actually was a study done.and they found that lavender, ylang-ylang, marjoram, and neroli actually help. and theyblended it at a 20, a 15, a 10, and 2 ratio. and they stored it cold.so evidently...i’m going to read this because

this is kind of interesting. “lavender alleviatescardiac excitation, lowers blood pressure, and is effective in hypertensions and palpitations.ylang-ylang lowers blood pressure, alleviates palpitations and nervous system excitement,and promotes emotional relaxation. marjoram lowers sympathetic nervous activity and stimulatesthe parasympathetic nervous system, resulting in vasodilatation to reduce cardiac strainand decrease blood pressure. and neroli brings forth emotional soothing and comfort. andthat is very effective in cardiac palpitations secondary to shock and fear.” and that waspublished in 2012, in the evidence-based complementary and alternative med journal. so there is somegood research on blood pressure. and when it comes to diabetes, just got aquestion too about diabetes, very similar,

i would think, maybe the go-to oil is cinnamonfor sure. as you know, the herb itself, but the oil is so much more effective that youcould utilize a teaspoon of coconut oil with some raw honey and a drop of cinnamon. dothat twice a day. that can actually help. and i know it might sound counter-intuitiveto use honey, but honey is a great carrier. it really is. honey is a great carrier. ifyou don’t want to use honey, just coconut oil, maybe with a little bit of almond butter.that tastes really good. that’s good too. but lavender, as well, can help with diabetes,balancing glucose. if you haven’t folks, the diabetes summitis going on right now. and i was featured in it. and if you join, if you go to thediabetessummit.com,if you register, you get my talk for free.

but you also get an e-book that i wrote withdr. brian mowll, which is also part of my essential oils vip package. so either way,you go to the diabetes summit or you go to my website and you draw my newsletter, you’regoing to get a book. we actually wrote a book on diabetes and essential oils. i just don’thave time to talk about that too much in depth. but i want to go from that blood pressurequestion to julia and ellis’ question about afib because atrial fibrillation, it’s agood segue into just oils that are good for the heart. and that’s something to considerbecause afib is an abnormal heart rhythm characterized by irregular or rapid beating, right? andfolks want oftentimes to get a pacemaker. so what we have found—julia, this is specificallyfor you—but in 2014, there was a study about

geraniol. and geraniol, again that’s a chemical.geraniol is a chemical in these oils. you can find geraniol as a primary chemical componentof rose, palmarosa, and citronella. it’s also an ingredient, and interestingly enough,not the primary of geranium and lemon. you would think geraniol, geranium. not necessarily.the highest contents of geraniol would be palmarosa, citronella, and rose.so we have found that geraniol, the chemical blocks calcium and potassium channels in themyocardium. and it can actually – dig this, it’s unbelievable – decrease induced arrhythmiasin clinical trials by 128%. so my recommendation would be to apply dilutedrose, palmarosa, geranium, lemon, and citronella—find a nice blend—over the heart, and also aromatic.that would be a great blend to put in your

diffuser. you could smell it throughout theday, enjoy the benefits of it. geraniol is unbelievable. and we can talka little bit about geraniol because it is antiseptic. it is antibacterial, anti-inflammatory.it has cancer-fighting properties against – dig this, i kid you not – leukemia,hepatoma, melanoma, pancreatic cancer lines. it is also affective for lipid metabolism.so very, very good and also... sabrina: pregnancy.dr. zielinski: yes, and pregnancy. and here’s a freebie for heart health. again, we’regoing back to wintergreen because we have found that a study testing aspirin over methylsalicylate, which is a primary ingredient – primary chemical, not ingredient, i’msorry – primary chemical in wintergreen,

flat out drug aspirin versus natural methylsalicylate, they have found that they’re equally effective in helping antiplatelettherapy. so this can treat acute myocardial infarction and acute coronary syndrome.so here’s my thought: if you have two compounds, a drug or a natural compound and they bothare the same in effectiveness in clinical trials, to me, the natural compound outweighsthat a million fold because there’s virtually no side effects. so when you look at aspirin,aspirin can actually and has been shown to cause heart attacks, because it creates littlemicro-tears if you use it. too much chronic use actually creates micro-tears in your arterialsystem. that could cause heart attacks. and so, here’s the thing, we get this alot, a lot when it comes to oil – health

studies and oils. oils actually are as effectiveas the conventional treatment. they are not “more effective” but without the sideeffects, i think their more effective. so just my little standpoint.sabrina, you got a question you want to read? sabrina: yes. dr. zielinski: keep them coming.folks, just so you know, we got about five minute and then our hours up. oh, just soyou know, we’re here is atlanta. and i’m taking mama z out and my mentor, enoch. we’regoing to the celtic women concert. and we just love that. so we’re just having a date.so we would just enjoy inviting you guys for date night: true food and then we’re goingto our night. we just love each other. and we love jesus. and we just love sharing thiswith you. so sorry, we just had to take a

break from all that science because we’rekeeping it real. sabrina: okay. we got a question, how to storeoils. i fully recommend glass. and i like the blue or the brown glass. that is whetherit’s a roll-on bottle or a spritzer bottle or a regular pump. so what i do in the bathroomis i make my own soaps, make my won oils. and i have them in pump bottles.and so of course, you can come up with your own different blend so that they’re ableto come out of the pump bottles. but really the blue and the brown because some are verysensitive to light. so you just want to be very careful, because that’s going to ageyour oils. so that’s what i recommend. another one diffusers, what do we recommend?nothing that’s going to heat your oils.

you want a cold press diffuser so that it’snot heating the oils past a certain point so that they’re not as effective. now, again,yes, we do cook with essential oils and we use them in cooking. and you’re going todiminish some of the benefit that way. so the ones that plug into the wall, althoughthey still smell good for a time, you can tell when they’re old because they do notsmell the same. so we always use the ones where you add cold water or that you put theessential oil bottle all the way in. and then it actually utilizes the essential oil bottledirectly. dr. zielinski: i will say, though, becausewe don’t make commission on this, we’re not affiliates or anything. we recommend greenair. you can go on amazon and type up, “green

air.” hey, i’ll just tell you, it’snot like the sexiest diffuser, you know? some of them are beautiful, right? but this isrelatively very cost effective. it’s not cheap, but it’s very cost effective, like30 bucks. and it diffuses up to six to eight hours at a time. it kind of looks like r2d2,like the little thing. but it’s cool because we have those in the kids’ room. and forour mantle of our loving room, we have a nice little fancy one that’s really kind of sexyand looks nice. but, you know, sexy, i mean...so diffusers are good. green air is great.you want a diffuser that could diffuse up to i think five to six hours at minimum ata time. and also you want 500 to 600 square feet of a room. you don’t want a littledinky one that can only do 100 feet because

you’re not going to get, if you’re 20feet away, essentially if that make sense, because of cubic square footage. so i thinkgreen air is a good start and again, you can go online. and there’s a ton of them. butsabrina’s right, you want those little [inaudible]. i want to mention this because i did a littleresearch on this just to prepare because this is a topic that is very important becausethere’s not a lot of hope for people with parkinson’s because there is “no cure,”right? and that, my heart just goes out to anyone who has parkinson’s disease or theirfamily member is suffering with parkinson’s. i do believe under right conditions, god hasgiven our body, i believe, to heal itself. and so i always want to say there’s hope.with faith, it can be healed.

and for those people who are battling it,the thing is symptom-based management. that’s what most medical paradigms are. so this isfor lynn hart, because her husband was diagnosed with parkinson’s four years ago. and soshe just wants to know if there are any oils for parkinson’s because she mentioned frankincense,and can frankincense help? can it not? because it can go through the blood-brain barrier.so that’s what her mindset is because she just watched the truth about cancer. and joshaxe and i talked about oils in that documentary. so when you think about parkinson’s andthis is just a minute about this, because it’s symptom-based management primarily,but who knows. i mean, really when it comes down, there are case studies that say it’sactually helped itself. but this a condition

where tremors or shaking usually begins inthe limbs. and it starts in your extremities, your hands and fingers. and there’s slowmovement, rigid muscles, posture related issues and balance, loss of autonomic nervous functions,speech changes. so when you think of this stuff, there’sa lot that you could do. and i found this gem of an article by a dr. robert rogers fromthe parkinson’s recovery center. and i’m going to read a little bit because he interviewedgene oswald from rochester, new york, who is a certified aromatherapist and a registerednurse. and according to gene, when dr. rogers askedher, “what if an individual has problems with rigidity in muscles and it’s very difficultfor them to move with ease?”...and this

could be for anything folks, whether you’rearthritic, whether you deal with inflammatory conditions or parkinson’s, what oil mighthelp? well, according to gene, cedarwood, frankincense and sandalwood, because they’reall high in [inaudible] blood-brain barrier and they’re going to be carrying more oxygenthroughout the body and helping with firing neurons and relieving neurological symptoms.and so, according to gene, muscle rigidity in connection to that is helped by marjoram,specifically marjoram essential oil, and also basil, which is antispasmodic. so this isher recommendation, apply them in a massage oil over the spine, directly on the solesof the feet and specifically areas of the skin where the tension is present.so if there’s painful areas or there is

really rigid muscles or rigid areas, that’swhat you want to do. again, it’s a blend, a lotion that combines marjoram and basil,even with frankincense, sandalwood and cedar wood particularly.and so, what about tremors? the same thing, you want to look at the antispasmodics. andaccording to aromatherapist gene, we’re looking at basil and frankincense. so thatis the parkinson’s discussion. and, what else do we got? you got anything, sabrina?o q&a, part 3 episode #27 sabrina: i do teach aqua fitness. and oneof the benefits to utilizing the pool for people who have parkinson’s. i do have somepeople who have parkinson’s in my classes. and that really does help the lymph systemto push out that lactic acid a lot more effectively.

and that has helped too, because i’ve seenpeople who have a very hard time with those tremors and shaking where they’re able tocontrol themselves a lot more in the pool. and actually help their muscles still be ableto be used as a muscle. so that is extremely helpful.one other thing i think we should definitely touch on because we have to wrap up, is thata lot of people do ask us about oil pulling and oral care. and there’s great articleon drericz.com on oil pulling. but for the person that asked about the oral care, oneof the best ways to utilize essential oils in that way is a teaspoon to a tablespoonor raw organic coconut oil with clove, a couple drops of clove. and doing that on an emptystomach in the morning, swishing it.

don’t think of it as oil in your mouth.think of it like mouthwash in your mouth, really for 15 to 30 minutes. see eric’sarticle on oil pulling. i had a tooth that was actually starting to grow dark. and itreally helped to bring it totally back to normal. you couldn’t even tell i had thatissue, but it helped with sensitivity. and thanks, ginelle, for putting that up there,but it helped so much. and i don’t have sensitivity in my teeth anymore, because ofdoing that. so i strongly encourage you to read that article, as well.dr. zielinski: awesome. ginelle, we just love you. thank you so much for posting all thesearticles. everyone, just give janelle a handclap, kisses. we’re not here alone folks, we havea great team behind us helping us. it’s

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